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| Passage lundi après-midi devant la Commission d'aménagement d'Anaheim pour y présenter et y défendre le projet "Eastern Gateway" qui ne fait pas l'unanimité auprès des commerçants de South Harbor Boulevard (hôteliers, restaurateurs... ). La Commission d'aménagement, qui doit encore délivrer le permis de construire pour la passerelle pour piétons, la nouvelle zone de sécurité, la signalisation et le centre de transport, ainsi que l'approbation finale pour le nouveau parking à étages, devrait prendre une décision le 23 janvier prochain. Le Conseil municipal aura son mot à dire dans la décision (du moins sur certains éléments du projet). - Citation :
- Disneyland neighbors have a bad feeling about park's new parking, bridge project
Some businesses along a one-block stretch of Harbor Boulevard have raised serious concerns over Disneyland’s Eastern Gateway Project, a massive proposal that would dramatically change how visitors coming from the east get into the theme park.
With “Star Wars” land well under construction, Disney plans to develop a 23-acre parcel behind several motels and restaurants that line Harbor Boulevard. Plans include a seven-story parking structure with 6,901 slots and a security checkpoint welcoming those about to cross a 15-foot-high pedestrian bridge over Harbor leading into Disneyland and Disney California Adventure.
To clear the way, Disney has spent more than $100 million to buy property in the area, part of a $1 billion-plus push to create “Star Wars” land and the gateway.
But this project, which Disney will present during a Planning Commission meeting at City Hall at 5 p.m. Monday and hopes to complete in 2019, has fast-food restaurants, hotels and other businesses worried that it would choke off their business.
Now, the businesses’ customers and guests just cross Harbor to get to the theme parks and can easily break away from the parks for a meal in their restaurants before returning.
In Disney’s plans, the route could be more complex: Guests would loop around behind the Harbor businesses to enter the pedestrian bridge, going through security first. There would be no direct access to the bridge from Harbor.
The current Harbor entrance to Disneyland isn’t slated to be closed; Disney has said it will be kept open with a security checkpoint for the immediate future. The businesses want stronger assurance that an entrance will be there forever.
There are preliminary discussions about Disney allowing Harbor businesses to punch pathways behind their properties to the gateway so customers won’t have to walk as far to enter the queue.
“It’s sort of like they are dumping their problems into our backyard,” said Robert “Red” Harbin, a spokesman for the Harbor Boulevard Merchants Coalition, a group of some of the local business owners.
“It’s not our intention to delay the project,” added Harbin, who said there are more than 25 affected businesses with, on any given day, 10,000 hotel guests. “We’re just asking for reasonable accommodations and to flesh out ideas that would be good for the entire block. We want to work with Disney.”
In a sense, the business owners always have. Since 1955 when Disneyland opened, businesses have clustered here, getting parkgoers to stay in their motels and eat in their restaurants.
For several months, a Disney spokeswoman said, company officials have been working with neighboring business owners.
“We have held a series of productive meetings with neighboring business owners to listen to concerns and gather input,” Disney’s Suzi Brown said. “We have responded to their feedback and have been encouraged by the positive responses from many of the group to work together to find creative solutions.”
Scott Frisbie, whose family owns the nearby McDonald’s, is concerned that to connect to the new Disneyland gateway, the restaurant would have to give up space for a special walkway.
“It’s an impractical idea,” said Frisbie, 57. “They are asking us to create a walkway for people to walk across our property to their (gateway) entrance.
“But we have a liability and responsibility once we have the public on our property,” he said. “Not only that, but that would require us to remove some of our parking stalls, and parking is already scarce in this area.”
Paul Sanford, an asset manager for Wincome Management and Development, which oversees the Anaheim Plaza Inn and Suites on Disney Way, said Disney’s plans are still being developed and no one should rush to conclusions.
“With change, it’s never easy,” Sanford said. “There’s always concerns with change. I think Disney will come up with real positive options. I have a lot of confidence. The good news is they are listening and coming up with options.”
The Planning Commission is scheduled to make a decision Jan. 23. Disney needs a permit for the construction of the pedestrian bridge, the new security-screening area, signage and a transportation hub. It also needs approval for the parking structure. The City Council is expected to have the final decision on at least the pedestrian bridge at some point.
The Eastern Gateway Project came out of the $1 billion-plus deal Disney made with Anaheim last year. The park agreed to make the major investment, which includes the 14-acre “Star Wars” land, in exchange for the city agreeing not to tax gate admission at the parks for up to 45 years.
The eastside project aims to do several things, including making it easier for those coming in from I-5 to slide into the new parking structure along Disney Way. Hotel shuttles and buses would drop off guests on the east side of Harbor, at the transportation hub, near the security checkpoint and pedestrian bridge’s entrance.
Also, Disney is trying to spread out where people go through metal detectors instead of having them clustered around the esplanade between Disneyland and Disney California, like they are now.
Visitors on foot coming from the south would take a 600-foot-long pathway along Disney Way toward the bridge’s entrance.
The bridge would be built on the site of the Carousel Inn, which Disney purchased for $32 million last year, and would take guests to the esplanade, which holds the ticket booths for the parks.
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| Retour sur la présentation du projet Eastern Gateway à la Commission d'aménagement d'Anaheim. La décision de la Commission était attendue pour le 23 janvier prochain mais a été postposée, la nouvelle date n'a pas encore été communiquée par la ville d'Anaheim. ![DisneylandForward : Expansion de Disneyland Resort approuvée ! - Page 5 487882w185](https://2img.net/r/hpimg11/pics/487882w185.jpg) - Citation :
- Anaheim business owners air issues with Disneyland bridge, company vows to collaborate
Local entrepreneurs again voiced concerns over the effect a proposed parking garage and bridge to the Disneyland Resort would have on their businesses, this time in front of the Planning Commission on Monday evening, while Disney officials struck a collaborative tone – stressing their willingness to find solutions to their counterparts’ worries.
Further underscoring the work still to be done to appease hotel and restaurant owners over access to Disneyland and Disney California Adventure is that the city announced it is pushing back a scheduled Jan. 23 meeting to approve a permit for the bridge. A new date has not been set.
“We’re going to keep collaborating, keep working hard in the coming weeks and months,” said Joe Haupt, the president of Spectrum Development Group, a consultant for Disney.
Business owners, though, tried to pressure Disney to follow up on promises of collaboration by stating their case to the commission, the first time they have addressed a formal body of public officials. Council chambers were filled and about a dozen people spoke.
“Our problem is that it literally routes pedestrians away from our businesses,” said Mariam El Haj, who is part of a family ownership group that operates the IHOP on Harbor Boulevard. “We ask that the greatest creative minds come up with a more creative solution.”
Disney’s Eastern Gateway Project is part of a $1 billion investment deal the entertainment company made with Anaheim last year, partially to avoid a gate tax, that would see a 6,901-spot parking garage and new security area go up behind independently owned hotels and restaurants on Harbor Boulevard. A 15-foot high, 65-foot wide bridge would span Harbor Boulevard to take Disney guests into the esplanade to buy tickets and enter the park.
The original plan would require hotel and restaurant patrons to walk one block southward and cut through a walkway to get to the security area. From there, they could enter the park.
Disney officials have since suggested allowing access to the security area from the backs of hotels and improving signs directing people to restaurants and shops.
Several pointed questions – such as about the practicability of building a bridge versus a tunnel or about the width of the bridge – suggested skepticism of the plan by some on the commission.
The proposal irked some of the more than 25 business owners along Harbor Boulevard. They argued at a community workshop last week and again Monday that the bridge is an inconvenience to their guests – who can now cross Harbor to the esplanade – and will decrease foot traffic along Harbor, the majority source of their patrons.
Placing the security behind their businesses also struck a nerve with some owners, who said Disney is bolstering the safety of their main entrance while making increasing the vulnerability of customers and employees of the local businesses.
“Our family is also interested in safety and security for our guests and employees,” said Greg Eisenman, general manager of Tropicana and Camelot Inn hotels. He added that putting a security screening area behind the local businesses put the puts the risk “in our backyards.”
Dan Hughes, the former Fullerton police chief and Disney‘s vice president of security and emergency services, said that moving the security area back and creating a buffer between screening and the park allows officials to better “observe behaviors” and identify those who may pose a threat to the resort.
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| La pétition des commerçants d'Harbor Boulevard me fait sourire. Après je ne connais pas toute l'histoire mais si les commerces (hôtels et restaurants) se sont développés sur cette artère, c'est quand même grâce à Disney non? Ils ont profité pendant 60 ans de l'attractivité du parc... Disney rachète des terrains pour tenter de fermer un peu les axes avec le Harbor Boulevard et pousser les visiteurs à consommer sur place... c'est tout à fait logique de leur part.
La réaction des commerçants d'Anaheim me fait penser à celle de tous ces riverains qui sont venus se loger à côté de Disneyland Paris après 1992 et qui se plaignent des nuisances sonores du parc... |
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| C'était bien envisagé a l'époque pas tout à fait dans la forme actuelle mais n'oublie pas qu'a cette époque Michael Eisner était dans sa phase, il faut dépenser le moins possible qui a donné le DCA de l'ouverture, Hong Kong Disneyland et nos Walt Disney Studios. |
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| Les américains vont pas apprécier déjà que quand les plans ont apparu sur le WEB beaucoup de fan US on trouver le parkings trop loin de l'entrée (cela ce voit qu'ils n'ont jamais dû marcher 20min pour rejoindre l'entrée car ils étaient garés à l'extrémité du parking de DLP ...) Ils vont tous être en fauteuil téléguidé |
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| Article très intéressant qui permet de comprendre l'historique et la situation actuelle des relations entre Disneyland et la ville d'Anaheim: http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-disney-anaheim-deals/#nt=oft12aH-1la1En gros, la ville d'Anaheim, qui fait actuellement face à des problèmes financiers, accuse Disney de profiter de sa puissance pour grappiller toujours plus d'argent au détriment de la ville. En effet, la ville d'Anaheim: - est toujours en train de payer pour le développement des abords du resort: le centre de convention, les infrastructures et le parking Mickey & Friends que la ville loue à Disney 1$ symbolique par an alors que Disney récupère tous les revenus liés à la gestion de ce parking. - subit le chantage fait part Disney qui exige un allègement des taxes en échange de chaque nouvel investissement. Des subsides en échange de la construction d'un nouvel hotel de luxe et aucune taxe sur les tickets d'entrée au parc, alors que la ville prévoyait une taxe de 1$ par entrée, pour 30ans en échange d'un investissement de 1milliard dans les parcs (dont Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge en fait partie). Délai qui pourra encore être prolongé de 15ans en changement d'un investissement supplémentaire d'un demi milliard. De son coté, Disney se défend: - Le resort contribue à l'emploi, les jobs à Disney représentant 19% des travailleurs à Anaheim. - Les taxes payés par la compagnie s'élève à 43% du total des taxes collectées par la ville. - Disney donne des sommes importantes à des associations locales, aidant la ville à luter contre la pauvreté. Bref, les relations actuelles sont plus que tendues. Ce qui a pour résultat la mise en stand-by du nouveau parking qui était censé ouvrir avec le land Star Wars. Quelques experts s'accordent pour souligner le fait que Disney abuse de sa position dominante afin de soutirer toujours plus, alors que la branche Parks & Resorts de la compagnie se porte extrêmement bien. De mon point de vue, je trouve dommage qu'une entreprise aussi puissante et aussi saine financièrement que Disney ne prend pas plus à coeur la responsabilité sociétale à laquelle toute entreprise moderne doit faire face. Car comme dit dans l'article, si les subsides du passé ont bels et biens permis à Disneyland de devenir ce qu'il est aujourd'hui, il est temps qu'il revoit l'ascenseur à la ville d'Anaheim. Mais en même temps si la villa à accepter cette réduction des taxes, c'est que l'argent que va engranger ce plan de développement doit bien els arranger aussi. Tricky! Maintenant, je nous connais pas tout les tenants et aboutissant de la situation, mon avis ne se basant que sur cet article. ![](https://2img.net/u/3415/66/76/14/album/signat12.png) "Bienvenue à l'Etoile Noire, puis-je prendre votre commande?" Princess Leia |
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| J'ai commencé à le lire mais il est trèèèèèèèèèèèèèèèèèèès long ! Cela dit, Disney à profité durant des décennies de réductions de taxes diverses, d'avantages et a un peu renvoyer la balle. Mais TWDC est assez grippe sou quand même et là, ça risque de leur retomber dessus à force car elle na pas tout pouvoir malgré tout l'argent quelle brasse et rapporte. Bref, le combat risque d'être long et tendu ! |
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| Si Eastern Gateway est vraiment abandonné alors c'est très con de détruire le Carousel Inn... ![Evil or Very Mad](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_evil.gif) Et puis ça pose la question de l'extension de DCA sur le hub de transport actuel (et modification du Monorail) dans ce cas... ![scratch](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_scratch.png) ![](https://2img.net/u/3415/66/76/14/album/signat12.png) C'est à jamais |
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