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| Sujet: [Disney California Adventure] Placemaking et futur du Parc Mer 4 Juil 2007 - 21:13 | |
| Note de Grandmath: Afin de faciliter la lecture et la recherche, cet énorme projet que représente le lifting de DCA a été divisé en plusieurs topics.
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- Carsland: [url=http://disneycentralplaza.com/disneyland-resort-californie-walt-disney-world-resort-disney-cruise-line-f7/disney-california-adventure-cars-land-2012-t16480.htm][url=http://disneycentralplaza.com/disneyland-resort-californie-walt-disney-world-resort-disney-cruise-line-f7/disney-california-adventure-cars-land-2012-t16480.htm]http://disneycentralplaza.com/disneyland-resort-californie-walt-disney-world-resort-disney-cruise-line-f7/disney-california-adventure-cars-land-2012-t16480.htm[/url][/url]
- The Little Mermaid: Ariel's Undersea adventure: [url=http://disneycentralplaza.com/disneyland-resort-californie-walt-disney-world-resort-disney-cruise-line-f7/disney-california-adventure-the-little-mermaid-ariel-s-undersea-adventure-2011-t16481.htm][url=http://disneycentralplaza.com/disneyland-resort-californie-walt-disney-world-resort-disney-cruise-line-f7/disney-california-adventure-the-little-mermaid-ariel-s-undersea-adventure-2011-t16481.htm]http://disneycentralplaza.com/disneyland-resort-californie-walt-disney-world-resort-disney-cruise-line-f7/disney-california-adventure-the-little-mermaid-ariel-s-undersea-adventure-2011-t16481.htm[/url][/url]
- World of Color: [url=http://disneycentralplaza.com/disneyland-resort-californie-walt-disney-world-resort-disney-cruise-line-f7/disney-california-adventure-le-show-nocturne-world-of-color-11-juin-2010-t16050.htm][url=http://disneycentralplaza.com/disneyland-resort-californie-walt-disney-world-resort-disney-cruise-line-f7/disney-california-adventure-le-show-nocturne-world-of-color-11-juin-2010-t16050.htm]http://disneycentralplaza.com/disneyland-resort-californie-walt-disney-world-resort-disney-cruise-line-f7/disney-california-adventure-le-show-nocturne-world-of-color-11-juin-2010-t16050.htm[/url][/url]
- Les divers placemaking du parc (Buena Vista Street, Paradise Pier et Hollywoodland): [url=http://disneycentralplaza.com/disneyland-resort-californie-walt-disney-world-resort-disney-cruise-line-f7/disney-california-adventure-placemaking-phase-1-t16522.htm][url=http://disneycentralplaza.com/disneyland-resort-californie-walt-disney-world-resort-disney-cruise-line-f7/disney-california-adventure-placemaking-phase-1-t16522.htm]http://disneycentralplaza.com/disneyland-resort-californie-walt-disney-world-resort-disney-cruise-line-f7/disney-california-adventure-placemaking-phase-1-t16522.htm[/url][/url]
------------------------------- Qu'est ce que le projet Placemaking?
Le projet Placemaking a été mis en place pour le parc Disney California Adventure,ouvert en janvier 2001, et qui est le second parc du Disneyland Resort en Californie. En effet, ce parc a été un semis - échec (Eisner vous vous souvenez?).Ce parc connaît une vrai crise d'identification vis à vis des guests. Pour relancer et améliorer la qualité du parc dans le but de mieux répondre aux attentes des guests, TWDC a donc engager un projet de profonde rethématisation de DCA qui doit durer 4 à 5 ans. Il a été entamé en 2005.
Pour en savoir plus sur DCA: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney%27s_California_Adventure
Calendrier du Projet Placemaking
Phase 1: finie.
Date: Septembre - Décembre 2005.
Zone concernée: Une partie de Hollywood Pictures Backlot
Phase 2: repoussée
Tout sur la phase 1 et les projets des autres phases sur l'ancien topic consultable ici |
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| Sujet: Re: [Disney California Adventure] Placemaking et futur du Parc Jeu 5 Juil 2007 - 22:11 | |
| Il y avait un projet d'E-Ticket, mais utilisant une technologie dont Universal vient de réserver les droits pour les 10 prochaines années.... bref ça peut se faire, mais il faut changer d'idée maintenant. WDW : 2001, 2003 x 5, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2016, 2018 DLR : 2003 x 2, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2019 TDR : 2007, 2014 x 2, 2018 | HKDL : 2014, 2017 | SDL : 2017 DCL : 2005, 2009 | Aulani : 2015 Suivez-moi sur Instagram Mon blog sur les hôtels | Mes vidéos perso |
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| Sujet: Re: [Disney California Adventure] Placemaking et futur du Parc Mar 17 Juil 2007 - 19:17 | |
| Un budget d' 1 milliard de $ a été visiblement approuvé pour la refonte de DCA, supervisée par Bob Weis, le concepteur du projet mort-né Disney's America. A noter que le nouveau show nocturne Wonderful World of Color et la future parade Pixar ne sont pas compris dans ce budget car déjà financés... idem pour les projets de rehab du DLH, l'extension de Downtown Disney, et le DVC du Grand Californian, dont le financement se fait à part. Ca laisse rêveur. - Citation :
- What has been agreed upon is the concept that as DCA is fixed and expanded
over the next five years that WDI will go in to fix an area only once. Instead of dividing projects up over years and distributing them throughout the park, the thought is that it would be best to just go in to each area of DCA with guns blazing and fix it completely once and for all. And if that means closing off entire sections of the park for extended periods of time, then the hostesses taking complaints at the Guest Relations desk need to be ready for that. But it's those types of logistical hurdles that could push the debut of Wonderful World of Color back to 2010, or stall next years new Pixar parade for a year or more. By the end of this summer the basic timeline for DCA construction should be determined, and some of the new entertainment already in the pipeline may be delayed because of it. We'll keep you updated, or course. The other new addition being held up is the plan to spruce up the section of Paradise Pier that surrounds the new Toy Story Midway Mania ride. As construction continues on that new facility, it will be clearly obvious that this is a very different type of architecture than the cheap strip-mall stucco and vinyl signage that Paradise Pier opened with in '01. The new ride building will be fitted out with very distinctly themed Victorian architecture, complete with gingerbread trim and all the bells and whistles. The plan was to continue that new theme to the surrounding structures along the boardwalk, from the carousel to the midway games and shops across from the Sun Wheel. This was just going to be an overlay to the existing structures, and the budget for this beautification is relatively modest at 18 Million.
But the TDA bean counters are hesitant to release those funds lest the much bigger remake now coming to Paradise Pier scraps some of that initial work for even more richly themed structures. A decision has to be made soon to get the ball rolling on that small project, or they run the risk of having the elaborately themed Toy Story ride open next June alongside the cheap look of the original Paradise Pier. But that timeline also butts up against the desire to only go in and fix each area of DCA once, instead of only doing some of it and then coming back for a bit more a year or two later. While there promises to be plenty of construction walls in DCA's future, the good news is that the Burbank executives have fully realized that DCA can not continue in its current uninspiring and underperforming format. And a few weeks ago the Board of Directors put their money where their mouth is to the tune of a Billion. There are even some folks at WDI who are saying that if DCA gets everything the board just approved that DCA could rival DisneySea or Epcot as one of the best second-gates in the Disney empire. That sentiment may be hard to believe for anyone who has visited DCA in its current form, with the visual intrusions from outside the park, its dismal layout and its off-the-shelf rides. But that's just how excited people are in Glendale this summer. Not only that, but there's a current proposal by some in TDA to publicly spill the beans on this massive Resort plan. The thought is that by announcing the exciting and impressive new direction DCA is taking it would force the hand of the Anaheim Planning Commission who want to kick the city's golden goose by hemming in the Disney property with uninspiring apartment buildings and shoebox condos. Depending on how the messy saga plays out with the city council and the housing developers there may be an uncharacteristic public announcement of this new Anaheim plan in the near future. Disney aficionados all over the world would go nuts over most of the DCA artwork, that's for sure. http://www.miceage.com/allutz/al071707a.htm WDW : 2001, 2003 x 5, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2016, 2018 DLR : 2003 x 2, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2019 TDR : 2007, 2014 x 2, 2018 | HKDL : 2014, 2017 | SDL : 2017 DCL : 2005, 2009 | Aulani : 2015 Suivez-moi sur Instagram Mon blog sur les hôtels | Mes vidéos perso
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| Sujet: Re: [Disney California Adventure] Placemaking et futur du Parc Mer 18 Juil 2007 - 17:10 | |
| En gros ils expliquent que les Imagineers souhaitent cette fois tout refaire d'un coup zone après zone, plutôt que retoucher les lands années après années petit à petit. Sinon les deux gros projets sont toujours Carland et son E-Ticket à la Test Track, et la refonte du coaster California Screamin sur le thème des méchants Disney. WDW : 2001, 2003 x 5, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2016, 2018 DLR : 2003 x 2, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2019 TDR : 2007, 2014 x 2, 2018 | HKDL : 2014, 2017 | SDL : 2017 DCL : 2005, 2009 | Aulani : 2015 Suivez-moi sur Instagram Mon blog sur les hôtels | Mes vidéos perso |
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| Sujet: Re: [Disney California Adventure] Placemaking et futur du Parc Jeu 19 Juil 2007 - 10:31 | |
| Je viens de lire l'article de MiceAge et fiouuuu, quelle claque!!!! J'ai hâte de voir les concept-arts, ça promet!! Dans l'article , il est aussi question de la difficulté de faire coexister les nouveautés déjà programmées et financées (Pixar Play Pals Parade et Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color lagoon show) avec les travaux gigantesques qui viennent d'être approuvés et qui bloqueront des zones entières du parc (on peut en faire des choses avec 1 milliard de $)... Bref, que du bon, et un parc méconnaissable au terme de ce placemaking gigantesque!!
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| Sujet: Re: [Disney California Adventure] Placemaking et futur du Parc Jeu 19 Juil 2007 - 23:50 | |
| - Citation :
- Oui ça fait vraiment rêver sur les possibilités avec un tel budget. A quand une telle refonte pour nos WDS ? Lasseter a pu tâter l'ampleur du désastre fin juin, j'espère qu'il ne nous oubliera pas !
Le problème, justement, c'est que selon Al Lutz, Lasseter ne serait vraiment intéressé que par le resort californien, pour des raisons personnelles (c'est le parc de son enfance et il y a été CM sur la croisièe dans la jungle) et il s'implique nettement moins dans les autres resort (pour preuve, ce n'est qu'en juin dernier qu'il a visité pour la première fois DLRP, plus d'un an après être devenu le chief creatif d'Imagineering)... |
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| Sujet: Re: [Disney California Adventure] Placemaking et futur du Parc Mar 28 Aoû 2007 - 16:57 | |
| Accrochez vous, voici un article de MiceAge qui ne va pas vous laisser indifférent!! D-isney C-hanges A-llFirst lets update you on the plans to start spending that big budget on DCA, as a few of the tricky construction timeline issues seem to be falling into place in the last few weeks. As it stands now, the two new entertainment offerings already planned for DCA before the 1.2 Billion was approved look like they should be able to debut as previously scheduled. The first offering, the new Pixar Play Pals parade we broke the news on last March is still on its way to make a Spring, 2008 grand opening. There had been concern that DCA's parade route would be too torn up at the park entrance to be able to stage a major parade in the park during construction. That problem will be worked around by changing the DCA parade route entirely so that parades begin in the Pacific Wharf area and head west towards their conclusion in Paradise Pier. As the park boundaries of DCA eventually expand into the Timon parking lot, the parade route will expand with it and gain back some length it lost by avoiding the "Sunshine Plaza" area at the park entrance. And the first summer of the new Pixar parade may still use the original parade route, as the construction in DCA's entrance area may not begin until later in 2008. Remember, the guiding principle of DCA's extreme makeover is to go in and tear apart an area only once, and so the plans and goals and timing for each area must be in their final form before the bulldozers move in. The DCA entrance area had been considered for major changes for many years now, dating back to the early Matt Ouimet era when a frank and fresh approach towards DCA's problems suddenly became fashionable. But the budgets and scope that Matt Ouimet was working with was much smaller than what's available now, and the old plans were classified as a "Placemaking" project of the existing structures and building footprints. Matt had budgets in the tens of millions to work with, where now the budgets are in the hundreds of millions. The huge new budget now allows for blowing out practically every structure that is there now, and building new 1920's themed buildings and facades instead of just trying to dress up what was already there on the existing footprint. DCA itself would actually expand just a bit to the north in the current plans, with new entrance turnstiles moved out to where the California letters currently stand, before visitors entered a Mission Moderne styled street that would resemble Los Angeles in the roaring 20's. Photo: David "Darkbeer" Michael Hooray for Hollywood Tied in with the project to radically remake the entrance is a plan to rebrand and retheme the current Hollywood Pictures Backlot section directly to the east of the existing Sunshine Plaza. Instead of a fake Hollywood backlot themed to being a fake Hollywood, the area will be redone to actually be Hollywood during the Golden Age of the 1930's. It will purposely be an era just slightly later than the 1920's entrance, and will be fleshed out with real stores and experiences behind what are now just false fronts and empty buildings.
MuppetVision, currently on the north side of the street, is scheduled to be replaced with Mickey's Philharmagic, but with a 1930's era pre-show designed specifically for DCA's new mission statement to play up the Walt Disney era. As they rebuild that 3-D theater, it will provide the opportunity to fill in the empty facades with real stores that can be entered instead of just looked at through shallow display windows.
Photo: David "Darkbeer" Michael
And of course the "isn't this clever" fake skyline painted on the Hyperion Theater warehouse building would go too. Instead, the Hyperion is planned to have a dramatic upgrade that will install a full size façade on its exterior and mercifully enclose the ugly industrial stairwells on the buildings northern flank. You read that right, the most notorious example of cheap DCA architecture will mercifully be addressed, and the big ugly duckling should finally turn into a swan. Photo: David "Darkbeer" Michael The bland cement plaza that currently pretends to be a lobby will be enclosed, and a fully equipped and very legitimately fancy lobby will be built that leads to the newly enclosed escalators and elevators that will take the audience up to their seats. Photo: Fishbulb The interior of the theater itself will get remade as well, as the two-dimensional mesh coverings that were supposed to be hip and "suggest" a grand old theater will be replaced by intricately detailed walls and a proscenium that will literally look like a fancy 1930's entertainment palace. The plan is to make the Hyperion a self-contained and state-of-the-art theater facility that could possibly host major awards shows or concerts, an idea that you readers may remember from my columns years ago was actually part of DCA's early proposal but was axed from the budget early on. The new exterior of the Hyperion lobby building is planned to be themed to a 1930's Hollywood street, and new stores and visitor amenities will be included as visitors walk along the street south towards the Tower of Terror. And remember, this snazzy 1930's Hollywood land will be buzzing with streetcars and open-topped limousines that will ferry visitors around the area just like the old-fashioned cars and trolleys on Main Street USA. Only when you venture into the northern courtyard of the land around Monsters Inc. will the literal 1930's theme give way to a more modern "studio backlot" theme. But even then the Imagineers are trying to figure out how to get that concept to mesh with the clearly 21st century stories in the Philharmagic and Monsters Inc. attractions that will be there. But the dramatic makeover planned for Hollywood, in addition to the new 1930's theme, is going to be much more thorough and in depth than the mild amount of modestly budgeted "Placemaking" that went into that area in preparation for the opening of Monsters Inc. in 2005. Paradise 2.0But in the meantime, the bulldozers will be moving in this winter in and around the Paradise Pier section of the park (and no, I haven't been invited to direct them where to go). The other new entertainment offering, and it's on a much more massive scale than the new parade, is the Wonderful World Of Color lagoon show that is no longer a secret to anyone. That's still heading towards a 2009 debut, but big work needs to be done to get ready for it. Photo: Fishbulb Basically the entire northern edge of the Paradise Bay lagoon will be torn out and rebuilt to handle thousands of spectators per show. While the rather charmless "Golden State Amphitheater" that sits there now offers a terraced viewing area of sorts, it's not going to be nearly big enough to handle crowds approaching 10,000. That amphitheater was a last minute addition to DCA, and the area was originally supposed to house exhibits for the "California Workplace" concept Eisner and Pressler touted to the press in the late 1990's. By 2000, only three California companies signed up to sponsor exhibits; Mondavi, Boudin and Mission Tortilla, and they were all placed elsewhere in the park. Mondavi bailed out of its custom built winery facility after the first summer as the family and business were deconstructed. They still officially sponsor the Seasons Of The Vine movie, but the theater is managed by the Foods department instead of the Attractions department and it is rarely ever opened to visitors. The average number of people who view the Mondavi show each day has averaged about 15 this summer, and that requires the viewer to know to go across the patio, track down a Cast Member, and specifically ask to have the movie started for them. There are days when the attraction is simply kept shuttered and closed all day. You have to wonder how much Mondavi is paying for that sponsorship agreement for a movie that is never actually operated for anyone, don't you? To get ready for the lagoon show, the area from the Paradise Pier entrance bridge to just past where the Golden Zephyr currently stands will be transformed into multi-level terraces designed to look directly at the huge new lagoon show. Photo: Fishbulb On the other side of the parade route, backing up to this new terraced area, the Route 66 section is planned to be removed entirely. In place of the cheap Mulholland Madness county fair coaster and the McDonalds and pizza parlor a beautiful Victorian beer garden would be built. Nestled next to the beer garden would be a new coaster themed to Ratatouille and a mad race through kitchens and alleys, although there are some Imagineers who don't think that rides theme will do much to increase food sales next door at the beer garden. Photo: Fishbulb Just to the east of that and across from the current amphitheater the Golden Dreams attraction would be torn down. Sorry Whoopi, your time is coming to an end. Only the Palace of Fine Arts dome would remain, and it would be used as the exit for a brand new Little Mermaid ride using an Omnimover ride system like The Haunted Mansion. Those trusty Ominmover ride systems can carry up to 2,300 riders per hour, and seeing how Golden Dreams has been averaging only 75 or 80 visitors per hour this summer, that should be a much better use for that space. Tony Baxter describes the Paris Little Mermaid ride model on the DVD This new Little Mermaid family dark ride would help strengthen the presence of San Francisco in a park supposedly about California, especially once they tear down the droopy Golden Gate Bridge out at the entrance. Currently the only real homage to San Francisco in the park is the Golden Dreams dome, a single Churro cart painted like a cable car, and the empty San Fran row houses across the way. Photo: Fishbulb But those row houses won't be empty for long, and this is where John Lasseter's style really starts to make an immediate impact. In fact, those row houses will likely feature the first proof that DCA has hit the budget jackpot while more and more Imagineers and many Disney fans (even the few who actually like the place now) get excited about the first-rate park DCA will become. The current plans call for those empty San Francisco row houses to become a new Disneyland Resort Preview Center with models and sketches of the new attractions and park themes coming to Anaheim in the next few years. The center will most heavily tout the plans for DCA, especially at first. But it would also be used to showcase the new Disneyland Resort hotels, Downtown Disney expansion, the new Disney Cruise Line ships based out of Long Beach, the new look and attractions planned for Tomorrowland, and any number of the growing list of new projects now headed to Anaheim. John Lasseter remembers fondly the "Coming Attractions" exhibits that Disneyland used to feature in the Disney Showcase on Main Street USA, and he wants to recreate that for the new DCA projects about to get underway. And he also knows full well that any model or sketch displayed would be the talk of internet message boards all over the world. The 1.2 Billion to fix DCA has already been committed by the board, in addition to the hundreds of millions of dollars already ear-marked for Anaheim expansion and investment after the 50th changed the corporate conventional wisdom on Anaheim's earning potential. Lasseter and the Imagineers assigned to the DCA projects would love to see a Preview Center, if only to prove to everyone that these huge undertaking is really going to happen. http://www.miceage.com/allutz/al082807a.htm |
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| Sujet: Re: [Disney California Adventure] Placemaking et futur du Parc Mar 28 Aoû 2007 - 23:27 | |
| C'est quand même étonnant qu'ils refassent toute la partie Hollywood qui était sublime. Et visiblement ils vont supprime la fausse perspective en trompe-l'oeil du théâtre Hypérion qui était pourtant bluffante. Autant il y a des choses à faire (recouvrir le fameux escaliers sur le côté du bâtiment) autant enlever cette perspective est une énorme erreur |
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| Sujet: Re: [Disney California Adventure] Placemaking et futur du Parc Mer 29 Aoû 2007 - 10:14 | |
| Mais pourquoi John Lasseter n'a-t-il pas été CM à DLRP? En tous cas c'est marrant de voie que ce qui arrive à DLRP est prévu pour disparaître en Californie (Hollywood Avenue). Et je suis trop content de voir apparaître un Preview Center dans le parc! Nul doute que John Lasseter a compris comment exciter les foules! Walt Disney le faisait déjà avec son émission Disneyland! Par contre je n'ai pas trop compris ce qu'ils comptent faire pour l'entrée... |
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| Sujet: Re: [Disney California Adventure] Placemaking et futur du Parc Mer 29 Aoû 2007 - 11:25 | |
| - Ptitmath a écrit:
- Par contre je n'ai pas trop compris ce qu'ils comptent faire pour l'entrée...
Visiblement il s'agirait de transformer la zone de l'entrée en Los Angeles des années 20, car c'est à cette époque que Walt Disney est arrivé en Californie. Contrairement à ce qu'était prévu avec le Placemaking, maintenant le budget permet de raser presque tous les bâtiments de cette zone (entourés en jaune) et de déplacer les tourniquets d'entrée (trait rouge) vers la zone où sont actuellement les lettres géantes "CALIFORNIA" (en pointillés rouge), donc d'agrandir légèrement l'entrée du parc. J'ai l'impression qu'ils veulent faire une vraie rue, un peu comme Main Street... Le Golden Gate Bridge va disparaitre mais comment vont ils intégrer le Monorail dans une rue thématisée sur le Los Angeles des années 20?? A moins de le faire passer dans une sorte de "tunnel", je ne vois pas... The huge new budget now allows for blowing out practically every structure that is there now, and building new 1920's themed buildings and facades instead of just trying to dress up what was already there on the existing footprint. DCA itself would actually expand just a bit to the north in the current plans, with new entrance turnstiles moved out to where the California letters currently stand, before visitors entered a Mission Moderne styled street that would resemble Los Angeles in the roaring 20's. |
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| Sujet: Re: [Disney California Adventure] Placemaking et futur du Parc Mer 29 Aoû 2007 - 11:37 | |
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This new Little Mermaid family dark ride would help strengthen the presence of San Francisco in a park supposedly about California C'est ironique? Comment un ride comme la Petite Sirène s'intègre et soutient le thème de San Francisco? Autant je trouve que le déballage de fric est une bonne chose, autant y a des idées qui virent au n'importe quoi histoire de poser des trucs ici et là... Je suis triste pour l'attraction Golden Dreams. C'était la seule réellement éducative, qui donnait en plus sa légitimité au parc. J'espère que le plan de la relocaliser vers le hub, est toujours d'actualité. Par contre vive le Preview Center, une très bonne idée, car c'est vraiment le genre d'endroit où il fait bon traîner pour rêver... et puis pourquoi pas, dans ce même endroit, faire un lieu permanent sur la vie de Walt et l'histoire du Resort, un peu comme One Man's Dream à orlando (sachant que l'expo sur les 50 ans de DL, à Main Street, va bientôt fermer - à moins que ce ne soit déjà le cas?) WDW : 2001, 2003 x 5, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2016, 2018 DLR : 2003 x 2, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2019 TDR : 2007, 2014 x 2, 2018 | HKDL : 2014, 2017 | SDL : 2017 DCL : 2005, 2009 | Aulani : 2015 Suivez-moi sur Instagram Mon blog sur les hôtels | Mes vidéos perso |
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| Sujet: Re: [Disney California Adventure] Placemaking et futur du Parc Mer 29 Aoû 2007 - 11:46 | |
| - Grandmath a écrit:
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This new Little Mermaid family dark ride would help strengthen the presence of San Francisco in a park supposedly about California C'est ironique? Comment un ride comme la Petite Sirène s'intègre et soutient le thème de San Francisco? Autant je trouve que le déballage de fric est une bonne chose, autant y a des idées qui virent au n'importe quoi histoire de poser des trucs ici et là... Tout à fait d'accord, c'est comme un Crush's Coaster version Ratatouille à la place de Muholland Madness... il y a des choses qui m'échappent!! Ceci dit, je suis très heureux que cette attraction voit enfin le jour... peut être sera t'elle aussi construite à DLRP?! |
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| Sujet: Re: [Disney California Adventure] Placemaking et futur du Parc Mer 29 Aoû 2007 - 13:30 | |
| Je ne sais pas ce que va rendre le fait d'avancer l'entrée de DCA au niveau des lettres... c'est dommage, ça va réduire la place qui n'est déjà pas très grande, surtout quand il y a du monde qui attend pour entrer!
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| Sujet: Re: [Disney California Adventure] Placemaking et futur du Parc Mer 29 Aoû 2007 - 15:38 | |
| On trouve dans ces bâtiments des magasins et des restos, ainsi que les guichets visiteurs et des toilettes. Franchement, comme le dit GrandMath, je trouve que cet étalage de fric vire un peu au n'importe quoi. Je ne vois pas l'intérêt de refaire le Hollywood Boulevard, qui est magnifique et qu'on rêverait tous d'avoir ici. Le trompe l'oeil est génial. Même sur la refonte complète de l'entrée du parc je suis mitigé. Je la trouvais plutôt réussie. Je suppose que la nouvelle sera superbe, mais est-ce que c'était une priorité? Pour moi, la priorité à DCA c'est paradise Pear dont on devrait virer toutes les attractions foraines non thématisées qui sont une vraie honte pour Disney. Et il y a évidemment l'agrandissement du parc (l'article ne parle plus du Cars Land. Un oubli ou bien est-il passé aux oubliettes). |
| | | Grandmath Fondateur & Mister DCP 2008
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| Sujet: Re: [Disney California Adventure] Placemaking et futur du Parc Mer 29 Aoû 2007 - 18:44 | |
| Oui cet argent pourrait aller au développement d'attractions inédites, parce que refaire entièrement des zones comme Hollywood Pictures Backlot ou Condor Flats, je n'en vois pas l'intérêt non plus. Mais en lieu et place d'un superbe Carland ou d'une attraction innovante sur les Indestructibles que tout le monde attend, on veut nous thêmer California Screamin sur les méchants, ajouter un spinning coaster à capacité minable dans Paradise Pier (Ratatouille), cloner des attractions 3D (Philharmagic) ou en détruire d'autres (Golden Dreams). Attention je ne crache pas sur les investissements, mais sincèrement, pourquoi changer ce qui fonctionne? WDW : 2001, 2003 x 5, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2016, 2018 DLR : 2003 x 2, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2019 TDR : 2007, 2014 x 2, 2018 | HKDL : 2014, 2017 | SDL : 2017 DCL : 2005, 2009 | Aulani : 2015 Suivez-moi sur Instagram Mon blog sur les hôtels | Mes vidéos perso |
| | | Ptitmath
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| | | | J. Thaddeus TOAD
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| Sujet: Re: [Disney California Adventure] Placemaking et futur du Parc Mer 29 Aoû 2007 - 20:21 | |
| - mysto a écrit:
- et il ya quoi dans les batiment entourés en jaune
Des boutiques ( Engine Ears Toys en haut à droite, Greetings from California en haut à gauche), des snacks ( Baker's Field Bakery, Bur-r-r Bank Ice Cream en haut à droite), et les services du parc entre le Monorail et les tourniquets (Guest Relations, location de poussettes, toilettes, etc...). |
| | | Kinoo Mister DCP 2004
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| Sujet: Re: [Disney California Adventure] Placemaking et futur du Parc Mar 18 Sep 2007 - 12:23 | |
| Voici le premier concept-art révélé (dans le livre Disney Mountains) du placemaking de la partie Condor Flats qui se retrouverait englobé dans la partie Parcs nationaux de Grizly Peak: On note: - l'arrêt desservi par le tramway qui sera censé relié l'entrée et divers points du parcs - Soarin' et sa nouvelle façade et les nouvelles couleurs plus forestières. |
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